Today in the Scottish parliament, Scottish Labour will apparently argue that on economic grounds Farage/English-Tory-led Brexit trumps Scotland’s continued EU membership through independence. Look at all that trade that flows through England, they’ll say.

Seriously? Much of that trade in one way and another ends up in EU countries, of course, because England adds value or simply moves the stuff onwards. The Treasury itself has predicted dire effects of the kind of hard Brexit awaiting England through the applications of trade tariffs with the EU. So without the barriers erected to England by the EU, the nature of Scotland’s economic outlook would obviously change markedly. More trade would be directly with EU states, and it’s very likely that many English value-adders would want to move to Scotland to take advantage of the tariff-free trade.

And in respect of English consumption of Scottish goods, and English exporters to Scotland – would an English government REALLY seek to punish English folk and Scots just because Scots had chosen independence? Bite off its nose to spite its face? Tell Tory MPs in the North to kiss goodbye to their seats because they were really determined to screw everyone around at the border in every possible way?

No, of course not. It’s a risible narrative. And it arises because Scottish Labour is presently making the terrible mistake of making unionism its first order priority; with social justice and economic well-being battling for a distant second. That’s what’s leading the party to talk manifest nonsense.

And, since folk aren’t daft, it’s why Scottish Labour will only arrest its cycle of decline when it kicks down the door of its own political prison cell by ditching horribly outmoded unionist assumptions and breaking away from the leadership of the English Tories and Nigel Farage.

10 Responses to Scottish Labour on why Brexit is so super
  1. Eric – You’ve gone quiet? You’re articles have been well written, informative and generally on the button. Please keep up the good work and consider also using Facebook to circulate, (I had a quick search but could not find any).

    As with the gentleman above I have to say I had not really been a fan but having, (embarrassingly so), come from 20 years of voting Tory to take up a resolutely pro-independence stance during the 2014 campaign I believe your position and how you articulate it can help reach out across the spectrum of potential supporters assuming we continue the trajectory towards a second independence referendum. thanks

  2. I don’t know why anyone writes about Labour in Scotland anymore to be honest. The party that betrayed Scotland for a 100 years, and appears to want to out do the Tories on being Tories. I feel for every member of Labour who is actually left leaning because their only home is really the SSP, Greens or SNP but they can’t switch for whatever reason. Labour in Scotland are finished and only the stupidity of the Liberals gives them hope, but unless they come out and support independence then they wil continue to suffer a slow and painful demise.

  3. Worth remembering that the Union came about in part through threatened trading restrictions on scots traders with the Alien Acts. My guess is that the hurt to Tory pride would give rise to ill feeling towards iscotland. I’m not sure I would bet the house on a warm fuzzy relationship with ruk

    • Completely agree. They will initially be like a spurned spouse and will crap into our tent as often as they can IMHO.

      Further reason, if needed, to get out of the abusive relationship. Things will normalise soon enough.

  4. It’s sad to see a party I once supported, a party with so much to its credit, fall to such depths of pettiness, blindness and stupidity.

    Why are they doing this? Their membership and potential membership are firmly to the left of them.

    In Britain, as it has been since the 1970s and will be into the future, there is no hope of Labour, a proper Labour that is, taking control of government in England. That’s fair enough. That’s what voters in England seem to want.

    And these people in SLAB would rather have us ruled by Tories or Crypto Tories, rather than, just for once, listen to their constituents.

    We want left of centre politics and we want to be in the single market.

    But no, the leadership seems to be consumed with hatred of the SNP, who, after all, have stolen their scone.

    Caring about the people has come second to doing down the SNP at every turn. The Willie Bain school of politics is upon us.

    So, fine, SLab. Side with the Tories and the Liberals, and leave the constituents to the SNP adn the Greens as you slide down into first insignificance, followed by obsolescence.

  5. Eric, I despair. I really, really despair at the self-destructive nature of Scottish Labour.
    It saddens and bewilders me that they appear to put hatred of the SNP above their concern for the people of Scotland. Did they learn nothing from Indyref1 or is it just that Lab/Con/LibDem are morphing into one super-unionist party?

  6. One thing I don’t understand about all this is why is this

    “And in respect of English consumption of Scottish goods, and English exporters to Scotland – would an English government REALLY seek to punish English folk and Scots just because Scots had chosen independence? Bite off its nose to spite its face? Tell Tory MPs in the North to kiss goodbye to their seats because they were really determined to screw everyone around at the border in every possible way?”

    Whereas this is
    “And in respect of EU consumption of UK goods, and UK exporters to EU – would The EU REALLY seek to punish British folk and Eu citizens just because Brits had chosen Brexit? Bite off its nose to spite its face? Tell CDU MPs in the Bavaria(where BMW are built ) to kiss goodbye to their seats because they were really determined to screw everyone around at the border in every possible way?”

    Is perfectly feasible , because even though the EU sells more to UK than the other way round, Brits will pay the Tariffs on the BMW’S, they so covet, wheras no one in Europe will buy British goods because of the tariffs imposed .

    Off course, if the Eurozone is a childrens playground ,and no one likes the English, the whole zone over, then off course they wont be included in the games the Greeks, French, German and soon to be Scots children play.

    The English will just sulk of and sink into a depression . One wonders how we survived at all these last 300 years, as British foreign policy was always designed to oppose any power seeking dominance in Europe.

    It may well come to pass,it just sounds like a fairy tale to me ,
    If the EU was that good and the UK that bad, they would of kicked them out before now.
    All this dithering, but its 20% of the EU budget they are kicking out, and that means them that “like” Europe, (countries that get in more than they put in, Like Ireland and Poland, are soon going to see how much they like when they have to put more in.

    And therein lies the proof of the pudding.

    I voted remain, but realise living in a democracy means you don’t get what you want all the time , you get a vote on it thats all.

  7. I’ve been reading dire warnings from Unionists that, with independence, Scotland will lose £48.5 billion of exports to England.

    However, given their equally fanatical mantra that the UK has no internal borders, and that Scotland is an integral part of this borderless state, surely the correct term is not “exports” but, simply, “deliveries”.

    Otherwise where are the checkpoints for these goods? And should we all consider changing our narrative along the lines of:

    “I’m taking the day off work as I’m expecting Curry’s to export my new fridge today”?

    Gives a slightly different perspective, doesn’t it?

  8. Well said Eric, SLAB need to take the unionist tinted specs off and stamp them into shards. Preferably while in bare feet so the pain of the experience drives home the error of their ways.

  9. Respect is due. I, at one time and in view of your behaviour, tagged you as a typical Labour placeman and a bit of a diddy. Your recent posts and attitudes display a noted understanding of politics at street level and the srartegic direction neede3d to steer our too wee too poor but amazingly diverse, resourceful and potentially rich country though this nightmare of Brexit visited upon us by another nation with which we share less and less culturally politically and morally daily. Keep it up, join the real left leaning party in SCotland or the Greens and you could have a bright new future.


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